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GW011: Miracles of Second Chance with Trevor Kale from Chrysalis

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We all make mistakes small or big and often times don’t give ourselves the 2nd chance to make things right, do things differently… As you listen to this conversation, I encourage to think about what possibilities are available if you had given yourself or others a second chance!  You will hear inspiring conversation of the miracles stem from second chances.

Chrysalis is a nonprofit organization dedicated to creating a pathway to self-sufficiency for homeless and low-income individuals by providing the resources and support needed to find and retain employment.

Since its inception over 25 years ago, Chrysalis has opened three centers that are located where homelessness and poverty are most pervasive: on Skid Row in Downtown Los Angeles,Santa Monica, and in the Pacoima area of the San Fernando Valley.

Trevor Kale is the Vice President of Chrysalis Enterprises. He leads Chrysalis’ social enterprises, which collectively generate over 500 transitional jobs per year and more than $6M in annual revenues.

Trevor has over 15 years experience spanning both for-profit and non-profit organizations.  Early in his career he delivered in-home interventions for at-risk youth and their families in his native Montana.

Trevor was awarded a Marano Fellowship from the Aspen Institute and Public/Private Ventures in 2009, a Coro Executive Fellowship in 2011 and was named to American Express’ “50 under 40” Social Enterprise Alliance cohort in 2014.

In today’s episode, Kale tells us that Chrysalis doesn’t do the hard work – it’s their clients who do that.

The organization provides them with the personal support they need – they are present, as friends, as well wishers, to help their clients to create a better future for themselves.


Client Criteria: Chrysalis adopts those clients who have literacy issues, limited soft skills, no recent work experience, very low hard skills (if any).

These are people who defied the society who told them they couldn’t make it happen. These are people who had the courage to take the first step.

~ Chrysalis Magic: Teaching people to land the job, and keep it.

~ Integrating social business into the program: Trevor Kale talks about the need to create sustainable employment opportunities for its clients.

~ Perfect Fit: How does the program match the skills of each person to a suitable job?

~ How recession lead to the expansion of Chrysalis: The economic downfall in 2008 resulted in a 60% increase in the client base for the next three years. This created the need for urgent expansion at a time when funds were low.

~ Defining their success rate: Chrysalis tracks each individual as long as they are with the company, and for at least a year after they leave the program. Trevor Kale reveals the stats!

~ Barrier Removal: With background and criminal history as the main issue, facing rejection due to the mistakes they made when they were teenagers does narrow down employment opportunities.

Chrysalis reinforces confidence, stabilities self esteem, and gives their clients the chance to start over.

~ Celebration Sounds

When someone lands a job, a bell rings at the office. Each and every person heads out to the lobby to listen to that person.

This is for the staff, and for others still looking for a job. It is for motivation and inspiration. It is to remind them that their goal isn’t too far away.

~ Keep Your Head Up: What is the most common piece of advice from people who find success through the program?


“Listen to your desires.”

Trevor Kale found an emptiness in the pit of his stomach when he questioned his own motives for working hard. He pondered his purpose and landed at Chrysalis.

“Why can’t I work hard for something bigger than myself?” is what lead Kale to the non-profit world. And he never wants to leave.

From Montana to Australia to Los Angeles, Kale’s experiences with the non-profit and for profit worlds broadened his perspectives, and strengthened his relationships.


Losing My Virginity by Richard Branson (1998)



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